Monday, August 18, 2008

"The Autograph Seeker": Ginger Rogers and Future Blogger Collide!

 

I am not a person who asks film or sports celebrities for autographs. Part of the reason for this is the fear of rejection.  Another part is that I'm naturally shy, so the few times I have been at an art gallery or a park or a film festival in or around San Francisco and had a chance to ask for an autograph, I couldn't go through with it.  I  imagine these people were bugged enough already and I certainly didn't want to be seen as some kind of awkward intruder.      

But because I grew up at a time when a lot of older films played regularly on late-night television, I got in the habit as a teenager of either staying up late to watch the older films or getting up early depending on if I had a paper route.  I and a few friends liked the older films and one of us--I don't tjhink it was me actually, but I wish it was--once said that "the only people in movies I'd really want to meet are already dead."

  Later on I my twenties, I had a job that required me to work a "swing" shift (3 to Midnight) which had me home at right about the best time to see a lot of the old Warner Bros./RKO pictures that played on one or another of the Bay Area stations in California.  

In my teens I liked gangster melodramas, straight comedies and Westerns for late-night diversions.  It was in my twenties that I really discovered the Fred Astaire--Ginger Rogers films.  These movies like "Top Hat", "The Gay Divorcee" and "Swingtime" were fun little farces set against fabulous art deco sets and, for the popular cinema at least, witty and sophisticated dialogue.  The dances in these films were incomparable. The plots were nothing too avaunt-gar-de: Fred woos Ginger, Ginger plays hard to get, Fred dances with her, she thinks maybe he's not so bad after all, etc, etc.) But these great monochrome escapist films featured music by an absurd number of great composers Irving Berlin, Jerome Kern, George and Ira Gershwin and Cole Porter.   Because of this and the seemingly-effortless style and grace of the pair in action, I became a fan of both Mr. Astaire and Miss Rogers, together and separately, and added their films to my "guilty pleasure" reading lists of books concerning The Golden Age of Hollywood.     

Which brings me to the one time I broke this rule, or overcame this crippling shyness, take your pick.  The year was 1994 and Ginger Rogers was doing a book signing of her autobiography "Ginger: My Story" at an art gallery in Medford, Oregon.   Miss Rogers had made Medford her home-away-from-Hollywood for about 50 years when she bought a 1,000 acre ranch north of the city.  I had moved there a couple years earlier and ran into people who told me about seeing the lady herself, sadly now in a wheelchair, about town being escorted by an assistant on shopping trips. She rarely gave interviews to the local press so the book-signing was rather a big deal.  The fact that she was obviously in ill health also made this appearance more poignant. 

To make a long story short, after some encouragement from my wife Shirley to stop pretending I wasn't a star-struck fan and actually meet an icon of film history, I stood in line one drizzly Saturday afternoon in 1994 to buy Miss Rogers book and a program she had for her night club act and  have her sign the memorabilia. On my future wife's strong recommendation, I bought some flowers to present to the one-time box office queen and Oscar Winner. (In 1940, as the leading lady in the exceptional melodrama "Kitty Foyle".)The turnout for this signing was big--Ginger Rogers had been a fixture around the area since she made war bond appearances during World War II and sent the milk from her cows at "Rogers Rouge River Ranch" to nearby Camp White during the war to help keep soldiers in lactose.   She had also appeared at charity events in the 1980's when her health was better.  So a couple hundred or so local fans were already in line on Main Street when I turned up at noon to what I thought would be a much shorter line. What I thought would take a couple hours wound up being more like five.    She was supposed to only be signing autographs until about 4 that afternoon but graciously someone came out of the gallery and said to us "latecomers" (who had actually come on time) that she would stay a couple extra hours to meet and chat briefly with everyone. This act of graciousness was my undoing.  I let my guard down.  Since Miss Rogers' assistant seemed to encourage people to talk to the lady, I made up my mind to actually ask her a question of some kind other than just exchange pleasantries. But what to ask her, I wondered.  Surely nothing about Fred Astaire.  I hadn't read a lot of material on Ginger Rogers personal life, but I did know she was rumored to be less than pleased if people saw her pairing with Astaire to be the be-all and end-all of her career.   It was here that the bad idea formed in my head:  she was at RKO Studios the same time as Katherine Hepburn.  They had made a movie together and had been said to be rivals.  But, heck, that had been nearly fifty years back!  Surely they had buried that hatchet. And, since Hepburn was still alive perhaps they even spoke to each other over the phone occasionally. 

     Then I finally got inside the little gallery and I saw Ginger Rogers herself.  She looked a bit plump and had the telltale looks of aging, but she was also looking rather bright and alert for someone who had been meeting folks all day.  People right in front of me were getting their books and programs signed.  Miss Rogers looked happy and responsive. Cole Porter music was playing in the background. A large blow-up full- length photo of her from the 1930's graced an easel next to where she was signing books.  It looked like this would be a pleasant meet-and-greet   experience, one to cherish even.

Finally, it was my turn. I presented the flowers to her.  They were now wilted but she thanked me none the less and made me feel at ease. As she was signing  the book I put in front of her, and smiling at me for a moment, I sprung the trap on myself:

"I wonder Miss Rogers," I said, "if you are ever in touch with Katherine Hepburn these days?" 

I remember the hand she was holding the Sharpie pen with shook slightly and then she looked up at me.  Her eyes narrowed and, most amazing, I would swear I saw her nostrils flare. 

"I have nothing to do with Hepburn," the great lady shot back at me with a frown. "She was an eccentric. I didn't like her." She closed the cover of her copy of the  book as if I was a reprobate nephew who had just been written out of the will.

The brief encounter was ended and I managed a brief and very staged smile and thank you. I beat a respectable retreat from the front of the table.

I said earlier that I didn't read much about Ginger Rogers' personal life as most of the other stars.  It turned out, when I actually read her book, that bringing up Hepburn was about as bright a move as suggesting to her that she had hosted Joseph Stalin up at the Rogers Ranch.  Ginger turned to be in her younger days a staunch anti-Communist whose mother had actually willingly named names of suspected and actual Communists during the Hollywood Blacklisting Period.   Ginger also was a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution, a group which was about as revolutionary in her day as the Romanov Dynasty of old Russia. 

 

The fact that Katherine Hepburn was an FDR liberal who was decidedly sympathetic to those who were blacklisted--and condemned the actions of such groups that hounded actors and directors out of work just short of being blacklisted herself--had apparently cemented  permanent animosity  between two of the last surviving leading ladies of that pre-television era of Silver Screen enchantment. The one thing I learned from this experience was similar to what George Orwell said about Salvador Dali in one of his essays: that one could admire the work of an artist but deplore their personal conduct.  Also, sometimes it's better to just say something ordinary to a star rather than go for saying something risky.   So Ginger Rogers AKA Virginia McGrath, born in humble circimstances in Independence, Missouri, USA  wherever you are now, be glad to know you will be the first and last person I'll ever ask to sign an autograph.  But I still enjoy quite a few of your movies, may Eleanor Roosevelt have mercy on my soul.

 Hers's my favorite Fred and Ginger scene: the dance to "Night and Day" from "The Gay Divorcee" (1934) and the  rousing dance-studio number from  "Swingtime" (1936).  

I also have a brief scene of her and Fred from "Roberta" (1935) posted on my main page featuring more of the Astaire-Rogers magic chemistry.     

  

      

 

14 comments:

  1. A fascinating account of your contact with an icon of American cinema Doug and the courage it must have taken to ask that question. The stark interface between entertainment and politics is captured here and personally I'm glad you asked that question, it seems to have cut through the impression management of this star and touched a raw nerve. Why should you have known about the antipathy between Ginger Rogers and Katherine Hepburn, they were film stars?....I think it is great that you reminded the aging Miss Rogers of the reality that was the backdrop to the Hollywood dream machine of the 1950s. Not many fans would have inspired such an emotional response from her I suspect, I think this was a great triumph even if it may have caused you to cringe a little at the time. It certainly sounds as if you received an authentic response which I think is more than most fans did that day. A great story Doug.

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  2. Fred and Ginger were quite the combination. When I was a much younger version of myself I used to watch them all the time. They definitely do not make movies like that anymore. I am glad you had a chance to meet her even if you "stuck" the proverbial foot in your mouth. Not ventured nothing gained.

    I do not ask for autographs either. I had breakfast with Pat Summerall or should I say he sat right behind me in a diner. I was eating breakfast with my wife and heard a voice I knew. They were discussing football and Bill Parcells. As the conversation went on I knew I knew the voice. I finally turned around and saw Pat. I really wanted to go up and say hello but I chose not to interrupt his breakfast.

    Great story

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  3. I hadn't looked at it that way, AA, and I glad you helped me see this "cringe" as a possible bit of "reality therapy" to Miss Rogers.
    It was interesting that the chapter in her memoir on her mother naming names and the Hollywood Blacklist---part of the the American Red Hysteria of that time--is quite defensive in tone. And I had no idea about her and Hepburn as you say. I could think of many situations where even pro boxers like Muhammad Ali and George Foreman laid aside their differences once the battles were history. Why not film divas?
    If I nudged her conscience somehow, so be it--I 've needed mine nudged from time to time.

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  4. Thanks Fred. I didn't think of it at the time, but as I wrote out this blog, I rather thought it was worth "the venture". Summerall is someone I'd be tempted to say something, too, but I think you did the right thing--nobody likes to be interrupted at breakfast...well, at least I don't because I usually really like to eat.

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  5. I try not to interupt anyone while they are eating. I enjoy eating so I assume everyone else does as well.

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  6. I hope she wrote her autograph in the book before you asked her that question after you had waited all that time. Its years since I have seen one of those old movies, they used to show them on tv on Sunday afternoons in the sixties.

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  7. The funny thing, Iri Ani, was that I asked her right in the middle of her signing. Her signature was a little squiggly because of it. It was her shutting the copy of her memoir I remember best, though. Very crisp and final. If I had been a director, I would have "printed" that on the first take!

    I remmeber a lot of the older films on Saturday Afternoons and late at night. I got a chance to see several of my favorites--like "Swingtime"--at a big told movie house in Berkeley, California, near the campus. Seeeing the cinematography on some of those old dance numbers on a big screen give you a better idea of why so many people went tot the movies in the Depression and were "carried away" by that style and glamour.

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  8. lol @ squiggly. You know thats a pretty neat memory, I reckon I'd crack a grin everytime I looked at it hehehe

    A perfect take indeed!

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  9. Hahaha, wonderful Doug, what an experience. I love both Hepburn and Rogers. I think I have seen all of their films. I get so much more from those old movies, than I do out of the modern films. My mother thinks I was born in the wrong era 1974. They were pure entertainment, weren't they? For a start there was always a proper beginning and end!

    I hope you still have that book Doug? Ginger Rogers was a star in the old sense of the word!

    Thank you, that was very interesting...

    Cassandra

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  10. Indeed they were Cassandra--movies like "Top Hat" or "Casablanca" back then were made by studios where everybody--from the dress designers to the directors to the onscreen talent--were all right at the studio (or down the street at another major studio). Thus, producers were able to know the strengths of the people who appear and work behind the scenes on the film instead of trying to make a deal by chaing after actors or financing.

    The 1930- 40's would have been difficult times to have lived in, but I think myself and other people also sometimes feel they are in the wrong era in terms of music and the stars we value.

    Films today are often done as an ad hoc "one-off" deal, that's why I think, generally speaking, the quality of Hollywood Studio films pre-1950 are better, especially with a genre like the musical where you had a production "unit" right there to build a vehicle around for stars like Fred and Ginger.

    I'm sorry to disappoint, but I did sell the book with Ginger Rogers autograph a few years ago. I got carried away by the whole eBay thing of selling books and records on the Web. When it sold, I felt remorse. I almost tried to back out of the deal. But the person who bought it after the eBay "auction" sent me an e-mail about how excited she was to get Ginger Rogers' signature on a program, and she sounded so sincere. So that was that.

    I only hope now the person who has it will keep it and pass the little bit of movie history along to a good family.

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  11. You don't need the material thing in order to have the memory as your post has already proved.

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  12. So you sold it? Haha, I guess if someone else is going to treasure it, that's not so bad.

    I think in her personal life, Ginger Rogers was ahead of her time. She knew what she wanted and was quite assertive. Her mother before her had a similar personality and was her daughter driving force, but only if Ginger wanted it.

    Yes, hopefully the book will travel through movie history, thrilling all who own it for a while. After all we are all caretakers, whether it's books or property!

    Cassandra

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  13. So much fun to read your account of this signing, of 23 years ago. I just received, off eBay, Ms. Roger's book, signed at the same event you are describing. The autograph, book, plus 2 Mail Tribune news articles, + ship, cost $38.00.

    It's a curiosity that Ms. Roger's face looks injured. Do you remember that, or were you too frightened to notice her bright red, right cheek, with a scab?

    I'm also curious for what cost you sold your signed book?? $300.00 seems to be the average cost, now, although there is another one @ my cost.

    So much fun, Patricia

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