Sunday, May 20, 2012

MITT ROMNEY, "The Incidental Candidiate" (Howard Fineman, The Huffington Post, May 20) What better way to turn the Executive Branch of the US Government into a Rubber Stamp for low-tax-for-the-rich radicals than to elect a nervous Republican eager to placate its most vociferous members in the Congress ? "Anti-tax lobbyist Grover Norquist depicts the Romney presidency -- if there is one -- as a kind of figurehead monarchy in which the real power will lie with Congress, and within Congress, the power will lie with tax-cutting conservatives such as Norquist. "All we have to do is replace Obama," Norquist said in February. "We are not auditioning for Fearless Leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. We just need a president to sign this stuff."http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/20/mitt-romney-campaign-the-incidental-candidate_n_1528252.html?ref=topbar

26 comments:

  1. well hmmmm he won't win anyway ---

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  2. I'm hoping that will become clearer and clear as the campaign goes on, Heidi.

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  3. totally disgusting....but there will be many middle class and poor who will vote for Romney and that is so sad.

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  4. Romney is the rubber stamp...like it says up top...they dont want a leader, they want someone to sign in anything they say....I hope the hell Obama wins again....Watching today on meet the press....and the debate with Ryan, he says the same things over and over again and nothing ever new out of his or the mouths of any and all the Conservatives...never...same hollow voice.

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  5. Yes, it's tough to fight the Republican the greed-is-good agit-prop, Mike.

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  6. Yes, Ryan is about the worst of the lot, he thinks he's Reagan on steriods. Talking about budget cuts for the poor and middle class and the elderly and then talking about tax loopholes they never want to close, then claiming corporations pay 35 percent in federal taxes! I can think of General Electric, Wells-Fargo Bank, Exxon Mobil and several corporations that paid zero taxes recently in some years. We have the lowest income tax rates per GDP since before the Korean War and the greatest income inequality since Herbert Hoover!

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  7. Plenty of people who like to vote against their interest nowadays. Amazing!

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  8. I believe the 35% was in relation to personal income not corporate income Doug. Yet there is no justice in corporations being exempt from taxes which should be paid in accord thier annual gross domestic earnings.

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  9. Mike, it's sad two ways, I think.
    1. They could help Romney to win
    2. What an 'editorial comment' on the mentality of so many of our citizens

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  10. I have hope that our President will do it again....when the time comes to vote...I think a lot of folks will understand the outcome if the other guy wins...the only ones that wont get it are the stupid ones that dont have a brain to think with.

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  11. "
    "What an 'editorial comment' on the mentality of so many of our citizens"
    (I repeat)

    Marty, I hope I'm wrong.

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  12. I hope so also Lucija, Maybe when they see his mouth move and nothing intellectual and important comes out....but the same old BS, but I also know there are lots that are brain dead so he will get their vote thats for sure.

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  13. We do not need not a "de facto" third George W. Bush turn, with an even more out-of-touch leader.

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  14. Doug, I was looking for the exact amount of surplus that Clinton left to Bush, I know the precise amount of deficit Bush left Obama...1.2 TRILLION. Every single link referring to Clinton's surplus came up with "Page not found." Isn't that odd.

    Do you know it?

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  15. This might be some help Lujica, from the Wikipedia site on the US Federal Budget:

    2001 vs. 2012

    "The U.S. budget situation has deteriorated significantly since 2001, when the CBO forecast average annual surpluses of approximately $850 billion from 2009–2012. The average deficit forecast in each of those years as of June 2009 was approximately $1,215 billion. The New York Times analyzed this roughly $2 trillion "swing", separating the causes into four major categories along with their share:

    "Recessions or the business cycle (37%);

    "Policies enacted by President Bush (33%);

    "Policies enacted by President Bush and supported or extended by President Obama (20%); and

    "New policies from President Obama (10%).


    "CBO data is based only on current law, so policy proposals that have yet to be made law are not included in their analysis. The article states that "President Obama's agenda ... is responsible for only a sliver of the deficits", but that he "...does not have a realistic plan for reducing the deficit...."[36] Presidents do not, acting alone, have constitutional authority to levy taxes or spend money; all such proposals must originate in Congress, but the President has a veto over new laws, and his priorities influence Congressional action.[37]

    "Peter Orszag, the OMB Director under President Obama, stated in a November 2009 that of the $9 trillion in deficits forecast for the 2010–2019 period, $5 trillion are due to programs from the prior administration, including tax cuts from 2001 and 2003 and the unfunded Medicare Part D. Another $3.5 trillion are due to the financial crisis, including reductions in future tax revenues and additional spending for the social safety net such as unemployment benefits. The remainder are stimulus and bailout programs related to the crisis.[38]

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  16. A very rainy day here and just looking at this as it's most interesting.

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  17. Thank you Doug, for that 'additional' good information!

    I think Marty's got the figures I was looking for.

    "...when President Obama came to power, he inherited a budget deficit of $1.2 trillion. When Bush came to power, the country had a surplus of $300 billion."

    Now, however one wants to cut it, this takes amazing talent. From $300. billion surplus to $1.2 trillion deficit.

    Your Wikipedia response: "Presidents do not, acting alone, have constitutional authority to levy taxes or spend money; all such proposals must originate in Congress, but the President has a veto over new laws, and his priorities influence Congressional action."

    Um. *Pulling lower lip.*

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  18. You're welcome, Lujica.

    And well done Marty.

    It is rather amazing what one election can do to sidetrack a nation. Any excuse to cut taxes will serve these jerks--they don't care about debt or deficits, they care about putting the most money in their pockets .

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  19. and yes, if Romney gets in, the debt will go up higher and for sure we will fall into a deep depression. That is of course if somehow the dems get a hold of the congress in 2012, then ole Mitt will be in the same place as Obama is in now...nothing passed and nothing to help this country...because anything passed by a Dem congress he will veto.

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  20. Yes this one election looms larger than others because we are watching the GOP try to put "the band back together" so to speak by falsely starting the Great Recession clock at January 2009.

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  21. For sure Doug, but this time if Mr. Mitt gets in he already said he will cut cut cut for the poor but of course give his buddies at wall street more to line their pockets with. Our only hope is the women voting and the Latino's....dont know about the blacks, now that he has said he thinks gay marriage's are fine and his own people dont like that.... I think Obama should go after Mitt's Morman religion...you know how the Christian right hates it...they think its a cult and maybe they wont even vote....xing fingers that happens. I am sure there will be so many "nauseating" ads by the time it is all over with....we will be ready to throw a rock at the tv....lol

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  22. Just think of the poor people in the Swing states where the race might be close, Marty. I think Oregon is okay...we'll be lucky if Biden shows up in Portland this Summer.

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