
I think one of the most provocative columnists in America is Eric Alterman, who writes a column for the progressive The Nation magazine. His regular column, "The Liberal Media", makes a point often to show how much conservatives dominate the American mainstream media in matters of editorializing and opinion.
Anyone who has ever opened a regional newspaper or listened to AM Talk Radio in the United States already knows about liberal demonizing. Conservative mouth-movers like Rush Limbaugh dominate in part because the media is corporate-owned and doesn't want too many myriad voices to be heard. The other reason is that, thanks to decades of prosperity, the United States has become a center-right nation. This was achieved in part because of the threat of totalitarian regimes abroad and the sense that the Right, being most fervently anti-statist, would be better at "fighting off" the Soviets or the Chinese or Cubans or the Nicaraguans or now the Islamic-fascist cells because they were the party with the best chest-thumps on national defense.
Liberals were often too concerned about "squishy" things like civil rights, pre-grade school education for kids, health care programs for the poor and the elderly, etc. Some of these programs, like Medicare for the elderly, were hard fought campaigns that, once achieved and accepted by the public, were taken for granted by the most conservative members of the middle class, the largest voting block in America. They then went back to the conservatives when a right-populist like Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush would come along to convince the electorate that a lot of government tax money was being spent on people who were bad, or it was being wasted.
The funny thing was no Republican candidate of the Reagan/Bush variety cared about wasting money for weapons projects. Even if the Pentagon didn't want a weapons system, like the Abrams Tank or the new F-22 fighter plane, the money was thrown at the system because it created jobs.
A long time ago Republicans cared about deficits. After Reagan, deficits didn't matter so much as long as the rich weren't taxed the way they were in European or other developed nations. Liberals in the Democratic Party had a tough time gaining their footing with the voters as long as the G.O.P. came promising more tax cuts, more defense spending in the hundreds of billions, and lots of talk about being patriotic.
It's hard not to be a "patriot" if all your government asked you to do if you're an average striving middle-class, middle american is to take a tax cut and not mind if some body's Latino or Black kid goes off to fight the wars.
And,oh, I forgot: all the spending combined with and tax cuts. They would balance the budget anyway, because programs like Medicare and Head Start for pre-school kids in working-class areas would be cut anyway. Just throw that in with the "waste" in government spending. Former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich and his tax-cuts-for-the-rich pals even had a term for this: "starving the beast". The "beast" being the social safety net designed to save senior citizens, kids and the unemployed (especially in times like this current economic panic) from ruin.
The last Presidents who called themselves liberals now and then (Franklin D. Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson) believed in a strong defense but they also believed in a strong society for all.
"Liberal columnist, blog-ger and author Eric Alterman sits down for an interview with FORA.tv Founder and CEO Brian Gruber to discuss his most recent book Why We're Liberals, the meaning of liberalism, and the state of politics in the United States.
"Eric Alterman is distinguished professor of English at Brooklyn College of the City University of New York and professor of journalism at the Graduate School of Journalism at CUNY, as well as the liberal columnist for The Nation and Altercation blog-ger for Media Matters for America(formerly at MSNBC.com) in Washington, DC, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress in Washington, DC"
The single-most-damning graph is the one which shows the Federal deficit, and how much it's grown since the Neocons came to power under Reagan.
ReplyDeleteReagan's economic policies have been ratified on both sides of the aisle ever since - and they're simple (and, by the way, guaranteed to get a Presidential candidate elected): [1] Cut taxes; [2] increase spending; [3] make up the difference with borrowed money.
Neither genuine Liberals nor genuine Conservatives endorse this.
In the end, we have ourselves to blame: A look in the mirror proves, ironically, that Lenin was correct: "America will survive until the people learn that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury."
A most damning but perhaps correct analysis, Astra.
ReplyDeleteDick Cheney even said that "deficits don't matter--Reagan proved that" in a meeting with Bush in 2002 (according to Ron Suskind).
Sure deficits don't matter, nor do housing prices or the stock market--if you don't have to make a living in a recession economy that is.
An interesting analysis about why the US has become so staunchly right wing as a reaction to a perceived threat. I had wondered if this was the underlying agenda.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I cannot get this clip to work today (my issue not yours). As you know already, my beef with "liberalism" is that it is still very much a right wing movement, just as is conservatism is, in that both movements benefit the same people the middle classes, the people with opportunities already, and the wealthy and powerful while the people with less opportunities are still left behind. there is nothing in either package for them and probably won't be until (if ever) the US gets a viable left wing. Even slightly left-of-centre would be a help.
Its also clear that there is a need to get back to better fiscal management, and a need to bring in sensible work/welfare packages aimed at the poor and the deprived rather than at the rich corporates.
Interesting that the liberal movement is seen as right wing?
ReplyDeleteSpeaking as a liberal, I've been amazed and not a little scared by the extreme position taken by the American right. I've more or less given up arguing with them because it's a waste of breath mostly and anything I say is taken as an excuse to attack in the most offensive manner.
Taking a broader look, I'm guessing that no matter what flavour of government a country has the rich will become richer at the expense of the weaker in that society. That said, I do not believe that social inequity should be allowed to continue simply because it's too difficult a problem to solve. Rather I see it as a continuous struggle to better ourselves collectively with set backs along the way.
I used to be upset at the linking of the word liberal with things that are perceived as bad such as communism (read socialism here as well), Europe, government social programmes, welfare reform etc. etc. Now I shrug it of as ignorant knee jerk reactions made by ill educated people who are scared to take their blinkers off and look at the world in a cool non judgemental way.
Everything is relative. As a Brit who lives in Canada who is accustomed to having a third party which is a true "left" party I see exactly what Iri Ana means. Compared to the British Labour party or the Canadian NDP, yes, the Democratic party is indeed futher to the right. In Britain and Canada the word "liberal" connotes centrism, to be strictly accurate. Having grown up with the idea of the Liberals as the centre party, it's always hard for me to relate to the American idea of liberals being "on the left".
ReplyDeleteI agree there, Iri Ani. But I think as long as we have a direct-representation scheme, rather than a proportional representation elective process, this lack of a true "social democratic" or Labour-style alternative may be our national fate. I'm cautiously hopeful that more Americans, having seen the blind stupidity and greed behind the recent economic melt down, will shift their attitudes toward the business and investment elites. But I'm not holding my breath.
ReplyDeleteYou're right Jim. The type of folks you speak could be considered pathetic wretches if they weren't so successful over here in shaping the political agenda. And yes, the rich will always try to capitalize at the expense of the poor. Not always as individuals, of course, (some well-off people are quite socially-advanced and generous to the needy) but in general.
ReplyDeleteIt's all relative I suppose, Melanie. To call yourself "left" in America because you are a Democrat in America is to invite derision. Democrats in America are hard to define on national issues and many Democrats proudly call themselves "fiscal conservatives". But, to counter that, one must consider that there hasn't been a permanent new party in American politics since the Republicans started in the 1850's. All the other third-party efforts eventually collapse or fold into the Democratic Party--such as the Progressive Party of the 1920's. The Left is just not very big in the USA, but that may change given the economic crisis. (fingers crossed)
ReplyDeleteI some how doubt that progressive politics will much more than a toe hold either in the US or here. It seems that our electorates are (c)onservative and I fear that even this current financial melt down is not going to be enough to make a difference. Call me pessimistic if you like but I would prefer realistic. ;-((
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid you're probably right Jim.
ReplyDeleteInteresting post Doug, although it seems strange that liberals have been so stigmatised in a country where politics comprises of nobody else but liberals. The dispute seems to be between market liberals and social liberals but the predominance of free market solutions to the delivery of goods and services means that they are all liberals of one sort or another in the end.
ReplyDeleteThat situation is not dissimilar to parliamentary politics in the UK , consensus politics are the result and a de facto one-party system of government that means nothing very much changes when governments appear to change.
The use of language is crucial here, the liberals referred to above are I think social liberals who believe that an effective market economy must have a veneer of social protection in order to function effectively.
They are broadly opposed by market liberals (i.e. Conservatives) who believe in unrestricted free trade and the so-called 'trickle down' effect that it is assumed will benefit those who have not prospered in the marketplace, for whatever reason, age, infirmity or poor judgement...whatever?
America was conceived as an experiment in classical liberalism, the Constitution is an Enlightenment document that sets out the principles of a free market society and the freedoms that it is said to offer (i.e mostly freedoms 'to'.... rather than freedoms' from').
An America that has turned in it's back on liberalism is an America that has turned it's back on itself and it's origins and has entered uncharted ideological waters where nothing is as it seems.
That would be my own assessment too Doug, conservatives are misnamed because they are pursuing a radical market agenda and have torn up the Bill of Rights and other constitutional protections.
The globalisation of capitalism (the love child of liberalism) is in the process of abolishing America and the social liberals opposing these developments are the true American conservatives (traditionalists) I think.
Quite a pickle really Doug.
You sum up the problem of modern liberalist labels in America, AA. No matter the rhetoric, the solutions have to come from "bailing out" private entities too big to fail. Few seem to notice that if a private entity is too big to fail--like AIG or Citygroup-- it becomes an economic menace to the larger society (and other nations). What right does a few bankers or a hedge fund managers have to upset the whole macro-economy? If this is some type of economic "freedom", it is a freedom only for the few "economic royalists" over the many who make their money through sweat, craftsmanship and service to others.
ReplyDeleteI would agree there's really nothing very "conservative" about many conservative leaders, except the conservative social agenda they use to lure the right-evangelical Christian and ultra-Roman Catholic flock to their standards.
These incendiary "wedge' issues ("pro-life", anti gay marriage, pro taxpayer aid to religious charities, et al) are mere secondary business to the Main Goal--a crippled, unregulated central government where Wall Street and corporate cronies are kept at bay by well-funded political action committees (or PACS) under the guise of "keping government out of the lives" of ordinary folk.
In my university days, a political philosophy teacher made the point that the modern Republican Party were the "old" liberals (concerned primarily about the risk of too much state power) and the Democrats were the "new" liberals (those who noticed that the old-time economic trusts like Standard Oil and bankers like JP Morgan and his ilk were more threatening to the representative democracy then some mythical Washington "tyrant" (a spookhouse Democratic President) who was about as real as the Scarecrow from "The Wizard of Oz". I like the terms "social" and "market" liberals better.
That modern Republicans use the term "socialist" to describe Obama and Treasury Man Geitner's efforts to save financial capitalism through government funding is the final unalloyed irony, don't you think?
I'm sorry guys, all this may well be true and we who 'get it' can talk till the cows come home. But, if we the enlightened can not persuade the 'poor' underpriveledged conservative/republican voters that they (the conservative or republican parties) do not and have never worked for their interest, then all this rhetoric of ours is just so much hot air.
ReplyDeleteHere's a few up to date links jazzmanic that says this is not just hot air in the UK.
ReplyDeletePersonally I don't deal in the stuff out of concern for global warming, but this is about as mixed a bag as I could come up with in 5 minutes on Google. We are talking liberalism here and active citizenship of course, this is what is happening up your street, or at least it is up mine.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5340293/MPs-expenses-Officials-colluded-over-mortgage-claims.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/15/mps-expenses-constituents-public-anger
http://leslieblog.dailymail.co.uk/2009/04/sort-out-mps-expenses-quick-.html#comments
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5311556/MPs-expenses-Lord-Tebbit-says-do-not-vote-Conservative-at-European-elections.html
I wasn't implying you or anyone else here is full of hot air, rather that whilst we (it would seem from the comments posted) are enlightened or even converts, it is in my opinion, a waste of breath (or keypad presses) if we can not persuade those who vote for the conservative/republican parties who it would seem are not their natural supporters.
ReplyDeleteIt has been my experience whilst out on the stump for the Lib Dems that inertia is as strong a reason for not changing voting habits as I've found and incredibly difficult to overcome. No amount of persuasive argument or logic will alter years of entrenched habit no mater how obvious it may be to us. So, if we can not get enough of the electorate to see the goodness of the ideas then what ultimately is the point?
Most of my American friends are Democrats. And some of them I know would consider voting for a candidate who was further left. But as has been pointed out here and plenty of places/times elsewhere - the USA is probably too prosperous (in the big picture) for there to be enough supporters of a "Labour" party. American demographics are unique, and very confusing to outsiders. I was somewhat baffled during the recent election to read blogs by working class people who were enthusiastically supportive of the Republican party. Religion plays a big part in this.
ReplyDeleteAnd you make a good point for that angle, YES. I think it is often a matter of semantics.
ReplyDeleteAs for the expenses thing, opinion polls do not seem to have moved significantly as a result. Sure there may be some MP's who will be out of a job at the next general election but I doubt it will be enough to significantly affect the outcome we would have got any way.
ReplyDeleteBrown has lost the plot and with it probably the next election, Clegg and his men may, if they are lucky, hold onto most of their current seats. Sadly that means we will have a torry government under 'just call me Dave' Cameron. Whilst I have a sneaking sort of admiration for the man I just do not believe the Torie's are capable of changing under his leadership, or any other for that matter, That will mean the country will be condemned to years of right wing ideology, the rich will prosper (more so than they have under the current right wing government!?) and the poor will suffer further.
What suddenly comes to mind (hey, look - it's early) is the TV sitcom "Yes, Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister" which showed (quite accurately I believe) that our elected leaders don't actually do much in the running of the country, most of the decisions are made by the old school civil servants, many with titles, huge salaries and expense accounts, and extremely nice pensions to look forward to. They are supposed to be politically neutral but the very nature of their lifestyle inevitably will mean most of them are in fact right of centre. Add to that the reality of natural plutocracy in any capitalist system, we simply need left-wing politicans as balance.
ReplyDeleteDepressingly I think you may be right Melanie.
ReplyDeleteSorry to be depressing:) Do you like Chinese food? Hop over to my blog for a total change of topic:)
ReplyDeleteMy days of trying to convince anybody to vote for anything or anyone are long since gone.
ReplyDeleteI prefer to leave that task to history, but fortunately politics are not just about elections or changes of central government.
The point Melanie makes is a valid one and that is one of the reasons that the UK is I think a liberal one party state (like America where politicians also dance to the lobbyists tune).
This nicely illustrates the bankruptcy of party politics, but things are changing rapidly in the UK... partly because of developments within the EU (and wider global economic conditions)... but also because of domestic legislation that is inadvertently undermining both Westminster and Whitehall's absolute grip on political power.
The localising effect of the Sustainable Communities Act (2007) is an interesting case in point I think, it is a good example both creeping muncipalism and also EU subsidiarity that is currently undermining the power of Britain's traditional political centre.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2007/ukpga_20070023_en_1
For me politics has always been a very long game....but also as a committed revolutionary, I am interested in quantum leaps and those sudden ruptures unexpectedly delivered by unfolding history and what Harold McMillan is misquoted as calling "events, dear boy, events" (he actually said "the opposition of events." but that was changed and 'sexed up' by the spin doctors of his day).
Reasons to be cheerful for all of us dedicated to deconstructing the British state and abolishing the UK I think :-)
Absolutely Doug, there is a widespread tendency to forget that economic power actually lies in the hands of the producers of wealth and not the oligarchs and banksters who manipulate that wealth for their own purposes. The 'economic royalists' you mention may yet face their own 'roundhead' rebellion as history continues to unfold and the world is yet again 'turned upside down'.
ReplyDeleteI much prefer evolution, so much quieter.
ReplyDeleteBesides history is littered with failed revolutions. They all must in the end.
Is evolution possible without revolutions?
ReplyDeleteSometimes harsh economic realities sometimes can speak louder than words, Jim. But I'm not an expert...come to think of it a lot of experts didn't see this meltdown coming. You can't discount "inerta", as you have observed first-hand, or multi-generational party loyalty as factors here.
ReplyDeleteBut some voters in the rangewe are talking might do a radical "re-think" of their personal interests in the wake of the worst job market in decades. Just how many no one can say.
Yes, mine too AA. Especially friends and acquaintances of mine. Not worth the bother I've found. It's paradoxical I know, but I've found the only why one can have a sensible disagreement lead somewhere with another person is if that person concurs with your bedrock ideals.
ReplyDeleteThanks for correcting the record on that famous political qoute. "Events, dear boy, events", always sounded a bit more like Noel Coward than Harold MacMillan :-)
ReplyDeleteI think peaceful change can come--sometimes in both short, quick spurts of legislation--like Frankiln Roosevelt's First 100 Days as President in 1933, or the rapid collapse of the Eastern Bloc nations after the Hungarian leadership in 1989 opened the border with Austria and then East Berliners started heading over walls that once would have got them shot. And then there's the other kind.
I prefer evolution to revolution myself, but there's got to be an athmosphere of desperation to get any reasonable change. I wish appeals to reason would work as well as hard times for most people. These times in America are about as hard as I ever want to see. Perhaps the elections in November over here are something that will be followed up by real politcal evolution toward something like a European political spectrum in the next few years. I hope so at least.
Absolutely right, Melanie. Someone has to actually guard the henhouse besides the wolves.
ReplyDeleteI suspect it is but it would not be quite so exciting. ;-)
ReplyDeleteAfter all history is also full of great moves forward as a result of climatic events. Most wars have contributed something new technologically speaking to mankind, we of course don't see it like that till historians get to work later.
That's a refreshing comment Doug. Near every other political comment about Europe from an American I've seen would be ranking us alongside Satan probably.
ReplyDeleteThe nuttiest pundits usually draw the most attention, Jim. True, there is an anti-Europe feeling about, but I think more Americans than you might think are opening their minds to ideas from abroad--especially now that good jobs and public deficits are so high, thanks in major ways to the economic state that Wall Street's version of "Ruggled American Individualism" has put us in.
ReplyDeleteWe (the UK) have been perceived by a lot of the rest of Europe as being out of step with them for a long time (and I feel I must agree with the bulk of what they say) especially because of our close (apparent) ties with the US. There is also a small but growing movement within the UK calling for our withdrawal from the EU, a move that can only be to our detriment I believe.
ReplyDeleteThe danger of forgetting our histories is obvious and turning our backs on our friends is a peril that we should never face. That said, we the UK are a small island off the coast of mainland Europe and no matter what the detractors would say we have much more in common with our near neighbours than we do with the US. It is after all why the founding fathers left these shores all those years ago to start life in the New World.
Despite the markedly different ways our two countries have developed in the intervening years we have forged close bonds that we do cherish. That said, now is the time I believe that we should look eastwards to forge stronger relationships with our near neighbours who ideologically are in fact very close to where we are I believe.