Download at: http://ehistory.osu.edu/osu/mmh/internment/ for a larger version. A video about Japanese-Americans interned by the government during World War II. (Over 110,000 men, women and children were effected.)
A moving document on the injustices the Japanese community suffered in America after Pearl Harbour made all the more cynical by the fact that it was a US false flag operation.
Six months prior to Pearl Harbour FDR had imposed a total embargo upon Japan prohibiting all access to the Panama Canal (and Venezuelan oil) as a provocation calculated to prompt a military response.
Having broken the Japanese encryption codes, the Americans knew what was going to happen, when and where, but the president did not dispatch this information to Pearl Harbor. Americans even gave the British 3 Magic decrypting machines which automatically opened encrypted Japanese military traffic But this same information was not available to the commanders of Hawaii. The movement of the fleet was also visible in the very effective radio direction finding network. Japan had an alliance with Germany, and the Germans upheld their promises by declaring the war against the USA right after the Japanese declaration.
For both FDR and Churchill this was game, set and match America was in the war on the tidal wave of massive public outrage fanned by the media and propaganda of the sort shown in the clip.
Thanks for posting this reminder Doug of what our governments are capable of.... a lesson for much more recent history than the child prisoners of the United States concentration camp system This was a vilification (dehumanisation) strategy that was learned at the knee of the British... who had pioneered mass internment in South Africa.
Freedom from Want for all people in our world. Freedom from Fear for all. Meaning the need to DISARM. Still seems to be empty words even after all these years.
I totally agree Astra. Idiots like Bush and Cheney have done more to recruit terrorists thanks to torture tactics at Abu Gahib, Gitmo and "extraordinary rendition" of POWs and mere suspects to nations like Egypt and Syria than Osama bin-Laden could ever have dreamed of.
It is all the more sad to me, AA, that Franklin Roosevelt, one of three greatest American Presidents, issued such a draconian and inexcusable order. He give into pressure of those like Earl Warren, future Chief Justice of the Surpeme Court and then governor of California. Ironically, it was Earl Warren who, in 1954, got the Supreme Court of the USA to strike down the "seperate but equal" laws of the state of Kansas (Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education) that ws in effect the first great step toward ending segragation/apartheid against African-Americans in the South and throughout the nation. Such are the ironies of history, of which you are already familiar.
The mass internment of civilians was probably indeed modeled on British activities. It is the fate of our two nations to watch, with many mouths of sensible people at times agape, as American leaders repeat the mistakes the British made. The Iraq War being the most recent of these ventures into repeating a fruitless policy.
Yes, Iri Ani, it seems the even the mass carnage of World War II wasn't enough for his successor or other bigshot international leaders to take FDR's "Four Freedoms" seriously. If only more people could accept that money spent on new and bigger weapons is total folly.
These naive comments is astonsihing. The japs had to be stopped. The photos in the video should have been replaced with Chinese and Philippino women insted. We were next. Thank GOD for FDR and his prudent decision to relocate the japs off the west coast military zone. The rose colored glass comments are sickening and thank goodness do not reflect the majority. History distorted doesn't count. Facts are facts. Visit http://www.hemet411.com/afha/. Here's hoping the G-Bay detainees can be reloctaed next door to these kool aid drinkers.
Suffice to say that I welcome divergent opinions, although I fail to see how one's ethnicity can be a determining factor in national loyalty in time of crisis.
There were a number of pro-Hitler German Bunds and other American Fascists (e.g., "Silver Shirts" or Silver Legion of America) prior to America's entry into World War II. They even held meetings in Madison Square Garden in New York! Yet neither these German-Americans nor German-Americans as a group were thrown in prisons (unless they willfully helped the "Abwehr"--the Nazi's spy service that operated cells in America soon after the British entered the war.) I understand the need to defend the country, but the actions of the American and Canadian governments in interning Japanese men, women and children was not only wrong, but it was the sort of thing one would expect from our enemy, as the Japanese did to their shame against Chinese, Philipino, American and British subjects in the lands they conquered. You do not stop evil acts by the base imitation of them.
I've seen the site you've mentioned now, but I respectfully disagree with you on this. Thank you however, for making the opposing case.
The Japanese (and the Germans) did indeed need to be stopped back in WW2. However immigrants and refugees of those places who were living in NZ, the US and many other Western Countries were not the enemy and did not need to be imprisoned. Many of them wanted to help.
Quite so, Iri Ani. I don't know what the policy was in NZ regarding immigrants. But I can tell you many young Japanese-American men left the internment camps their families stayed in to fight for the US Army in Europe against the Axis. And their units suffered some of the worst casualties of the war over there.
One of the soldiers who came back, Daniel Inouye, went on to become a United States Senator from the state of Hawaii.
The best way to lose any conflict is to become your enemy....
ReplyDeleteA moving document on the injustices the Japanese community suffered in America after Pearl Harbour made all the more cynical by the fact that it was a US false flag operation.
ReplyDeleteSix months prior to Pearl Harbour FDR had imposed a total embargo upon Japan prohibiting all access to the Panama Canal (and Venezuelan oil) as a provocation calculated to prompt a military response.
Having broken the Japanese encryption codes, the Americans knew what was going to happen, when and where, but the president did not dispatch this information to Pearl Harbor. Americans even gave the British 3 Magic decrypting machines which automatically opened encrypted Japanese military traffic
But this same information was not available to the commanders of Hawaii. The movement of the fleet was also visible in the very effective radio direction finding network. Japan had an alliance with Germany, and the Germans upheld their promises by declaring the war against the USA right after the Japanese declaration.
For both FDR and Churchill this was game, set and match America was in the war on the tidal wave of massive public outrage fanned by the media and propaganda of the sort shown in the clip.
Thanks for posting this reminder Doug of what our governments are capable of.... a lesson for much more recent history than the child prisoners of the United States concentration camp system
This was a vilification (dehumanisation) strategy that was learned at the knee of the British... who had pioneered mass internment in South Africa.
Freedom from Want for all people in our world. Freedom from Fear for all. Meaning the need to DISARM. Still seems to be empty words even after all these years.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree Astra. Idiots like Bush and Cheney have done more to recruit terrorists thanks to torture tactics at Abu Gahib, Gitmo and "extraordinary rendition" of POWs and mere suspects to nations like Egypt and Syria than Osama bin-Laden could ever have dreamed of.
ReplyDeleteIt is all the more sad to me, AA, that Franklin Roosevelt, one of three greatest American Presidents, issued such a draconian and inexcusable order. He give into pressure of those like Earl Warren, future Chief Justice of the Surpeme Court and then governor of California. Ironically, it was Earl Warren who, in 1954, got the Supreme Court of the USA to strike down the "seperate but equal" laws of the state of Kansas (Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education) that ws in effect the first great step toward ending segragation/apartheid against African-Americans in the South and throughout the nation. Such are the ironies of history, of which you are already familiar.
ReplyDeleteThe mass internment of civilians was probably indeed modeled on British activities. It is the fate of our two nations to watch, with many mouths of sensible people at times agape, as American leaders repeat the mistakes the British made. The Iraq War being the most recent of these ventures into repeating a fruitless policy.
Yes, Iri Ani, it seems the even the mass carnage of World War II wasn't enough for his successor or other bigshot international leaders to take FDR's "Four Freedoms" seriously. If only more people could accept that money spent on new and bigger weapons is total folly.
ReplyDeleteThese naive comments is astonsihing. The japs had to be stopped. The photos in the video should have been replaced with Chinese and Philippino women insted. We were next. Thank GOD for FDR and his prudent decision to relocate the japs off the west coast military zone. The rose colored glass comments are sickening and thank goodness do not reflect the majority. History distorted doesn't count. Facts are facts. Visit http://www.hemet411.com/afha/. Here's hoping the G-Bay detainees can be reloctaed next door to these kool aid drinkers.
ReplyDeleteMy point entirely
ReplyDeleteSuffice to say that I welcome divergent opinions, although I fail to see how one's ethnicity can be a determining factor in national loyalty in time of crisis.
ReplyDeleteThere were a number of pro-Hitler German Bunds and other American Fascists (e.g., "Silver Shirts" or Silver Legion of America) prior to America's entry into World War II. They even held meetings in Madison Square Garden in New York! Yet neither these German-Americans nor German-Americans as a group were thrown in prisons (unless they willfully helped the "Abwehr"--the Nazi's spy service that operated cells in America soon after the British entered the war.)
I understand the need to defend the country, but the actions of the American and Canadian governments in interning Japanese men, women and children was not only wrong, but it was the sort of thing one would expect from our enemy, as the Japanese did to their shame against Chinese, Philipino, American and British subjects in the lands they conquered. You do not stop evil acts by the base imitation of them.
I've seen the site you've mentioned now, but I respectfully disagree with you on this. Thank you however, for making the opposing case.
The Japanese (and the Germans) did indeed need to be stopped back in WW2. However immigrants and refugees of those places who were living in NZ, the US and many other Western Countries were not the enemy and did not need to be imprisoned. Many of them wanted to help.
ReplyDeleteWell said Doug.
ReplyDeleteQuite so, Iri Ani. I don't know what the policy was in NZ regarding immigrants. But I can tell you many young Japanese-American men left the internment camps their families stayed in to fight for the US Army in Europe against the Axis. And their units suffered some of the worst casualties of the war over there.
ReplyDeleteOne of the soldiers who came back, Daniel Inouye, went on to become a United States Senator from the state of Hawaii.